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Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde Isostar » 13 Oct 2016, 10:45

geomaticianu scrie:
Isostar scrie:Democratie totala in "Land of the Free" .... Total adica se face orice sa iasa un anumit presedinte, absolut orice (legile sunt pentru prosti)...

Cine te pune sa stai in America daca tot nu iti place?Ia-ti bagajele si mergi unde crezi ca e mai bine.Nu te-ai plictisit sa stai si sa pui toata ziua link-uri pe forum?Cu siguranta candidezi la titlul de cea mai plictisitoare persoana din America.


Si eu care credeam ca sunt in Canada.... Dar de, omul cat traieste invata...
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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde Sly » 13 Oct 2016, 13:30

geomaticianu scrie:Cine te pune sa stai in America daca tot nu iti place?Ia-ti bagajele si mergi unde crezi ca e mai bine.Nu te-ai plictisit sa stai si sa pui toata ziua link-uri pe forum?Cu siguranta candidezi la titlul de cea mai plictisitoare persoana din America.

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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde Isostar » 14 Dec 2016, 08:34

Inca putin si SUA sunt acolo. Sa nu uitam, totul este "for your security"...

House Passed Bill Allowing Government to Microchip Citizens with ‘Mental Disabilities’


This bill passed, clinging to the broadest base of “good intentions” that it could muster, i.e. caring for those with disabilities and decline with age.

But in reality, it is a nose under the tent for a system that needs the ability to microchip dissenters, and to force cooperation on the part of the general population. In effect, everyone is now under their thumb with this, because anyone could doesn’t go along with the mass conditioning will be labeled ‘mentally –––’ and branded with a track-and-control chip. Game over.

At the first sign of suspicious behavior, or troubling social media profile, or a misunderstanding during an encounter, police and medical personnel – among others – will have the authority to declare someone ‘mentally disabled’ (or incapacitated, or temporarily insane, or unsound of mind, or whatever label is handy) just because they express discontent, anger or outage at the state of the world and political affairs. “Fake news” journalists can be shut down, and “conspiracy minded” individuals controlled… and of course, it will be abused. The tactics used against parents by CPS will be forged together with the creepy total surveillance of the fusion centers, etc. Potentially a very nasty police state.

This power will expand, and try again if it is slowed down or rejected. Whether it takes the form of an implanted chip, or a tracking number that is tied to each person, they will stop at nothing short of mark in everyone with identity tied to bank accounts, etc. They will insist you be on the grid in every way… and with this bill, they just got one step closer to controlling the future. All this has been foretold, and yet it is beyond anything anyone could have imagined.


Inca mai sunt cativa cu capul pe umeri, dar din ce in ce mai putini:


“While this initiative may have noble intentions, ‘small and temporary’ programs in the name of safety and security often evolve into permanent and enlarged bureaucracies that infringe on the American people’s freedoms. That is exactly what we have here. A safety problem exists for people with Alzheimer’s, autism and other mental health issues, so the fix, we are told, is to have the Department of Justice, start a tracking program so we can use some device or method to track these individuals 24/7,” Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX) said in a floor speech opposing the bill.

If these programs expand unchecked, how long will it be before all Americans are told that mass microchipping is necessary so that law enforcement and the government can better “protect” them?


asteptam provincia sa ne spuna ce bine se traieste pe continentul american...
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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde capsunar » 14 Dec 2016, 11:02

Isostar scrie:Inca putin si SUA sunt acolo. Sa nu uitam, totul este "for your security"...
This bill passed, clinging to the broadest base of “good intentions” that it could muster, i.e. caring for those with disabilities and decline with age.
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Nee, asa ceva nu se poate in the land of the free. Basca trebuie sa fie un fake news ca la o cautare pe goagle numai site-uri cotate ca fake news sant listate. Nimic da nimic de incredre ca NY Post sau time.. Nu mai zic ca nici in best place to live nu au spus la TV deci trebuie sa fie fake.

Totusi diferenta o face https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-con ... /4919/text .. oh deci nu e fake sau poate Putin a hacuit personal .gov.

Ce inteleg eu e ca:
1) Pt a deveni lege mai trebuie sa treaca si senatul + presedintele desi nu vad probleme decat daca se face tambalau pe tema respectiva dar mai dureaza.
2) Chipul nu insemna mare lucru fara o infrastructura de urmarire. Proiectul de lege cuprinde o groaza de detalii privind infrastructura.
3) Deocamdata doar dementa si cateva boli grave sant pe lista.. Dupa cum s-a vazut cu institutia protectiei copilului odata pornita institutia respectiva va adauga tot mai multi primitori.
4) teroristii nu o sa mai trebuiasca sa-si ia pasaportul la ei cand se duc la atentate, o sa fie gasit chipul intact.

Pe de alta parte sant bulversat, daca billul exista si nu zice la TV si NYP cine da fake news? Siturile cotate ca dau fake news sau site-urile care coteaza siteri ca fake?
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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde Isostar » 10 Ian 2017, 09:43

Mostenirea lui Obama

After eight years in office, Barack Obama leaves our nation with a weakened Constitution that has been dealt one crippling blow after another by court rulings and government overreach, with more militarized police empowered to shoot first and ask questions later, with more SWAT team raids, with more government corruption, with more debt than ever before ($19 trillion and rising), with more racial tensions bubbling over into confrontations, with even greater surveillance intruding into the privacy of the citizenry, with less tolerance for free speech and thought, with taxpayers groaning under the weight of even more taxes disguised as fines and fees, with a more “imperial” president empowered to act unilaterally through the use of signing statements and executive orders, with a greater risk of blowback from military occupations, drone strikes and endless wars abroad, and with a citizenry more broken and oppressed than ever.

In other words, Obama leaves our nation worse off than when he took office.
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Re: Este America (si Canada) un stat totalitar?

Mesajde Isostar » 11 Ian 2017, 10:39

Bine ati venit in "Land of the Free" , unde "Ministry of Truth" a devenit realitate. Ce inseaman asta? O scurta comparatie, cum ar fi ca pe acest forum doar Topografu' ar avea voie sa vorbeasca despre Canada?!?!?

Removal of Free Speech

In December of 2016, the US Congress passed the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act, following a television campaign warning that “fake news” created by Russia had increased support for presidential candidate Donald Trump, allowing him to defeat Hillary Clinton.

The law provides for the implementation of an Orwellian “Ministry of Truth” to counter “foreign disinformation and manipulation” that ostensibly threatens “security” and “stability.”

No single government agency has been charged with the enforcement of this law, which suggests that any government agency that objects to published information that disagrees with its own will have the power to take action. It may punish “the extensive and destabilising foreign propaganda and disinformation operations being waged against us.”

The upshot of this is that the US government will have the authority to crack down on any group or individual that it decides is disseminating “propaganda,” including punishing and/or shutting down any source it deems guilty of disseminating information that does not match its own propaganda
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