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Re: Taxe in afara Canadei pentru cetateni Ro si Ca

Mesajde popescu dragos » 20 Aug 2017, 11:45

Salutare tuturor !

Cunoaste cineva un contabil in Ottawa ?
Trebuie sa depunem declaratia fiscala pentru 2016 , an in care am locuit in perioada Ian. - Apr. in BC.

Numai bine tuturor romanilor , oriunde va aflati !
La 45 de ani m-am nascut a 2-a oara !
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Re: Taxe in afara Canadei pentru cetateni Ro si Ca

Mesajde linuxdevops » 19 Ian 2018, 21:54

Salut, nu stiu daca cineva mai urmareste thread-ul asta, si eu ma uit dupa informatii in legatura cu taxele, deoarece planuiesc sa ma intorc in Romania in cativa ani.

Daca nu as lasa nimic in urma, probabil ca nu m-ar interesa foarte tare subiectul si as cere sa primesc pensia in Romania prin Casa de Pensii, prin acordul semnat intre RO si CA, in 2004 (https://www.fin.gc.ca/treaties-conventi ... e--eng.asp). In acest caz, probabil canadienii mi-ar retine la sursa cei 15% (25% este pentru tarile cu care CA nu are tax treaty) si cand fac taxele in RO, deduc cei 15% deja platiti si probabil mai am de platit o diferenta.

In afara de aceasta pensie, pe mine ma intereseaza deasemenea ce se intampla daca am investitii si primesc dividende 'eligibile'. Uitandu-ma peste tax brackets si observand cum ca daca ai income mai mic de 42K, nu numai ca nu as plati taxe pe dividende, ci, bonus, as primi inapoi 6.86% (https://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/on.htm), datorita faptului ca taxele au fost platite de companie pe net, dupa care au distribuit dividendele, dar asta e alta discutie.

M-am uitat putin si peste regulile de la CRA pentru a putea fi deemed non-resident pentru tax purposes, si in cazul meu, m-am gandit ca nu ma pot califica datorita faptului ca as avea 'Secondary' ties, specific bank accounts, credit cards si mai rau (desi nu mentionat explicit) brokerage account(s). Bun, dupa care mi-am zis, de ce sa ma agit, din moment ce pot continua sa fac taxele in CA si daca singurul income (sau partea covarsitoare) este format din dividends, o sa primesc inapoi 6.86%, si platesc taxe pe CPP (minime sau mai degraba de loc <11K basic personal amount) dupa care fac taxele in RO si o sa mai vad eu la fata locului despre ce e vorba.

Iata ce informatie am gasit, se refera la statutul de rezidenta fiscala al celor care capata statutul de rezident fiscal intr-o alta tara (>183 zile petrecute) cu care CA are un tax treaty.


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Tax treaty “tie-breaker” rules
Canada has tax treaties with over 90 countries, including of course the United States and all of our significant trading partners other than tax havens. The tax treaties provide tie-breaker rules for determining residence, if a person would otherwise be considered resident in both countries under the domestic laws of each country. Most tax treaties follow the same model, though there are minor differences among them. (Tax Information Exchange Agreements that Canada has with many tax havens are not tax treaties, and the paragraphs below do not apply to them.)

If you are resident in another country under a “treaty tie-breaker” rule, then you are deemed by the Income Tax Act (subsection 250(5)) not to be resident in Canada, even if you have not cut your ties with Canada.

Thus, if you move to a country with which Canada has a tax treaty, it is easier to become non-resident, by means of a “permanent home” or having your “personal and economic relations” stronger in the other country.
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In cazul meu, 'if a person would otherwise be considered resident in both countries under the domestic laws of each country' s-ar aplica exact datorita i) in RO devii rezident fiscal in momentul in care ai petrecut mai mult de 183 zile pe an acolo si ii) daca nu as fi cerut explicit la CRA sa nu ma mai considere fiscal resident. Insa, se pare, ca nu mai am aceasta optiune din cate se pare.

Am vrut doar sa aduc in discutie acest aspect pe care nu l-am gasit mentionat nicaieri. Pe de alta parte, in cazul meu specific, cand nu mai esti fiscal residence in CA, se mai intampla un fenomen interesant, in cazul in care ai un brokerage account, trebuie sa suni la broker si sa anunti acest lucru, brokerul in acel moment va bloca orice tranzactie de cumparare 'buy' insa nu te va putea forta sa vinzi nimc sau sa lichidezi account-ul. Va pune codul tarii in care esti rezident fiscal (RO) pe account, si va taxa la sursa dividends si capital gains. Taxarea ar trebui sa fie de 15% flat in acord cu tratatul fiscal intre CA si RO, insa e destul de probematic, nu m-as mira sa nu dau de vreun CSR cretin care sa nu cunoasca legea si sa bage 25% cat este cazul pentru tarile fara tratat, dupa care sa treci prin multe experiente neplacute pana sa rezolvi problema. Inteleg cum ca diviziile de brokerage de la TD si RY ar avea ceva mai multa experienta in zona asta datorita la international exposure, insa cine stie de cine dai cand o fi timpul. Poate e mai bine sa investigezi din timp, pana sa pleci si sa mergi concret la sediul lor sa discuti direct aspectul, insa in cazul asta mi-e teama sa nu refuze sa deschida account, desi nu cred totusi.

Daca aveti ceva pareri in legatura cu aceste aspecte m-as bucura sa le aud.
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